I keep bringing up discussions on John C. Wright’s blog. I want to make it clear that this isn’t really a bad sign for his blog; at least we’re HAVING the discussions, and Mr. Wright and his commenters are smart guys. And it results in a lot of interesting posts for this blog.
Mr. Wright put up one post (linking to Vox Day) showing a link to a video of Roosh standing up to the press about lies made against him. He posted the video and praised Roosh.
In the comments my first reaction was as a response to somebody who questioned why we were all supporting Roosh; I stated that it was less about that and more that Roosh was combating. But later in a response to another comic I mentioned that we shouldn’t be taking Roosh as an ally.
Wow. It was as if I said we should stop backing Superman. Eventually people started questioning why I was still talking about (Uh, because I was still responding to other people?) and then literally did counts of my posts defending vs. opposing Roosh (I had more opposing because that’s what the conversation ended up being about). It eventually ended with everybody telling me to shut up. I obliged, thought probably after too long…
Here is my issue: We can spend our time backing all sorts of people who stand up to the press. Roosh is not somebody who is on our side. He opposes the press, but he’s also a pick-up artist. In response to the people who all mentioned that we were all sinners as well, true, but I don’t get on a platform to specifically treat men how to sin better. That is what Roosh does. The press lies about him, yes, and that is wrong. He stood up to them, yes, and that is good. Yes, we should be opposing lies.
But as *everybody* there admitted, that’s not really what it was about. It was about picking allies. Roosh, because he opposed the press, was looked at as an ally. Of course, he opposed the press because he wanted peace to teach men how to be cads properly, but hey, let’s not get into motives. As several people said, the press is the first enemy. Taking them down was compared to America and Russia becoming allies in WWII.
Well – and I hate to say this, but it’s true – believe it or not, we’re not really in a war. Seriously. The culture war is a good and many times useful shorthand, but it’s analogous to a real war, not literally a real war. Supporting Roosh and picking him as one of our spokesmen is also supporting somebody getting out the message on how to use girls for sex then dump them. Lots of ink was spilled on how I wasn’t condemning the women. I won’t even dignify that with a proper response.
This is different from supporting Russia in a war against Germany, because in this case it’s as if Russia is also bombing our side. Believe it or not, what Roosh is doing is ALSO opposed to what we should be trying to do. If together we take down the press we’ll be doing with the guy bombing Pearl Harbor. That’s not who you choose to ally with.
The idea that I’m doing this to virtue signal is ludicrous. As my “liking things I’m not supposed to” post hopefully made clear, in the circles I run in this is the UNpopular conclusion to reach. Come on. Do you really think I give a rat’s ass what the press, SJW’s, or anybody else thinks of me? I’m being published by Vox Day’s publishing house and have one of his stories in my anthology. I write for his publishing house’s blog, and he’s quoted two of my articles. If I want to make nice with the SJW’s this is not the hill I should be dying on.
So: Nope, I oppose Roosh. We shouldn’t be spreading lies about him, but there are better people to be supporting if we want to bring back the good, true, and beautiful. I’ll try and stick with them when I find people to endorse or not endorse.