George R.R. Martin is not the Gold Standard

There seems to be this idea that on the anti-sad puppies side of the Hugo debate George R.R. Martin has “kept a level head” and acted fair and respectful.

No. No. No he did not.

Let me be clear: I don’t care that he plays nice with Brad and Larry. I don’t care that he insulted Vox Day. That’s not the worst thing in the world – Vox tends to bring out those sorts of reactions from people.

No, what I care about is when he viciously insulted somebody – for argument’s sake we’ll call him, I don’t know, Theodore Beale – and then challenged him to debate his views.

And then when Mr. Beale came forward and said “Very well, I accept your debate” he quickly backed off while claiming he didn’t really mean it, he wanted Brad or Larry to do it, he didn’t actually intend…

Et cetera ad nauseum.

Oh, and all the while he didn’t even slightly back off on his unsubstantiated insults of Beale.

Many supposedly “neutral” or “moderate” commenters (and I think Brad and Larry as well, though I’d have to double check) have been holding Martin up as a good example of somebody on the opposing side of the debate arguing in good faith. Supposedly because he did a little bit more than absolutely nothing when it came to directly responding to Brad and Larry’s claims, and because he opposed voting “no award” on everything.

This is wrong. Martin is not a good faith opponent. He’s just a slightly cleverer variety of SJW. And I wish Bard and Larry would realize that instead of showing him respect he does not deserve.

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2 Responses to George R.R. Martin is not the Gold Standard

  1. That’s how low the standard has been dragged, Martin ends up being the good faith opponent by… well not being as bad.

  2. Kevin Stuart Lee says:

    Watching the reactions from the anti-puppies in this whole dust-up has been a fantastic lesson in how not to behave once one is in the public sphere. Watching Brad, Larry, Vox, and John C. Wright has been a lesson in how to behave. A year ago, I wouldn’t have thought a guy who predicts collapse by 2030 and takes FEMA camps seriously would be one of my role models for public behavior, but Vox has impressed me with his iron honesty.

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