No Matter What, It’s Men’s Fault

There is a ton to say about this, but it makes my blood boil, so I’m going to restrict it to one comment. Basically a girl in a pretty tame dress was asked to cover up her shoulders. It was stupid, the dress wasn’t inappropriate, but whatever. The school has the right to define a dress code, though the chaperone handled things inappropriately. That is not the point, though. As the mother of the girl tells us, the REAL point of this is that it allows women an excuse to take control of men. Here’s the mother of the girl:

“Any conversation about dressing modestly or inappropriately is inherently sexist. No one has that conversation with boys,” Kimball says. While she doesn’t have high hopes for abolishing dress codes in Utah, the mom of three is hoping this story will spark a larger discussion about objectification. “We need to teach boys, and schools, that bodies aren’t objects. If someone gets aroused because they see my daughter’s human shoulders, that’s an issue that should be addressed with that boy. Don’t shame and blame my daughter.”

Got that guys? Arousal, a natural bodily reaction to certain stimuli, is something that needs to be addressed so that girls can wear whatever they want.

And we need to make sure we tell boys that arousal is immoral. Because for girls, it’s “just a body”. For guys, natural reactions of the body are unclean and must be oppressed lest we make the girls uncomfortable in any way.

Remember: Even if the men didn’t do anything, it’s men’s fault. That is the whole point of feminist picking on the nebulous concept of patriarchy: It offers them a ready-made excuse to get whatever they want.

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11 Responses to No Matter What, It’s Men’s Fault

  1. Zippy says:

    The reason why dress codes and such affect women more than men is because sexual immodesty is the besetting sin of women, generally speaking. Men have different characteristic besetting sins — notably violence — but nobody is outraged about rules which keep the besetting sins of men in check.

    • And notice: Violence is getting more and more restricted in every way, including sports, while women push for more and more sexual freedom (seen most clearly in the utterly absurd “Yes means Yes” laws).

      That’s what feminism is all about: Gaining power over men.

      • Zippy says:

        Men are the traditional oppressor-untermensch in relation to women, unfairly superior and powerful; so female power must be enhanced while male power is curbed, in order to make everyone equal.

        “And the trees were all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw.” — Neil Peart

  2. Zippy says:

    (The reason this is the case is obvious, though politically correct: a man’s most primal power comes from his capacity to inflict violence, whereas a woman’s most primal power comes from sex.)

  3. Zippy says:

    “though not politically correct”

  4. GRA says:

    >>bodies aren’t objects

    Then what’s with the “my body, my rules”? I just get confused some times …

  5. Cane Caldo says:

    Basically a girl in a pretty tame dress was asked to cover up her shoulders. It was stupid, the dress wasn’t inappropriate, but whatever.

    I agree with the organizers. Not so long ago bare shoulders were not appropriate in a formal setting. In the article they mention Audrey Hepburn as a role-model, but she was actually a shock-trooper of the modern immorality.

    Good post, though. Female immodesty is a tough thing for fathers to fight.

    • Eh, I think that the standards of modesty have changed to the point that I would never really blink at a bare-shouldered dress. I’m sympathetic to what you’re saying, it just honestly doesn’t strike me as inappropriate. That said, a school absolutely has the right to define its own dress code. The article makes it sound as if the school perhaps handled the situation poorly, although we’re obviously only hearing one side if it.

      The real point is that the mother doesn’t really care about her daughter here. What’s important to her is that she can manipulate the situation to score political points. I find this slimy whether or not she was technically in the right about the original situation.

  6. Marissa says:

    The school chaperone simply asked if she had something to cover up her shoulders. How is that mishandling the situation? The girl responded like a narcissistic drama queen, which is no surprise considering her mother’s comments. It’s not the end of the world that a girl at a dance had to wear a coat over her dress.

    Also, it doesn’t really matter that “society has progressed”. Society may progress to where women can walk around completely nude. It’s already progressed to where bare midriffs and the thighs are perfectly acceptable to show. Bare shoulders are not allowed at the Vatican – men’s or women’s. I think that’s a decent standard, especially for a co-ed high school.


    • The school chaperone simply asked if she had something to cover up her shoulders. How is that mishandling the situation?

      The implication was that she did this in front of her friends, which embarrassed her, but whatever. You might be right. That’s not the point though.

      Also, it doesn’t really matter that “society has progressed”.

      You are equating my use of the word “progressed” with how progressives use the term. I simply mean that I don’t think this is immodest, even if it was considered immodest in the past. Fashions change. Twenty years from now fashions may change to the point that this can be considered immodest again, and reasonable people can disagree about the particulars of standards of modesty

      Regardless, you are missing my point. It has nothing to do with whether or not the situation was or wasn’t handled correctly, or even if the dress code was reasonable or not. The mother took a situation that at most should have involved her and her daughter (and they shouldn’t have made a fuss either, but let’s leave that aside for now), and used it to score political points. That’s slimy to the extreme.

      She also took the opportunity to somehow blame men for the incident, even though men had nothing to do with it. Remember: No matter what, it’s men’s fault.

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