LOL, Zoe Quinn

Ready for a misogynistic post? I frequent a writing forum (not saying where, don’t bother asking). Writers are notoriously liberal, with rare exceptions. And these exceptions are, many times, skewered by the rest of the industry. See: Vox Day, Larry Correia, and to a lesser extent John C. Wright (who was on a list of “Writers you didn’t know were bigots” because he defended marriage between a man and a woman).

Anyway, on a writing forum, you learn to just avoid political or social discussions if you’re a conservative. If you want to post there, you just learn to discuss writing, period. But sometimes you see some gems. Like this article.

I’m not even going to do a full fisking, because it would take ages and frankly I have better things to do. Also, it pisses me off. It’s titled “Gaming Misogyny Gets Infinite Lives: Zoe Quinn, Virtual Rape, and Sexism”.

Wait, I feel better. I just learned that it was written by Amanda Marcotte. When a chimp flings shit, are you really going to feel bad? Wait, damn, misogyny again.

I’ll  give you some choice quotes.

First: “Virtual Rape?” Did somebody manage to program her webcam to probe Quinn anally or something?

Wow, we’re not even in the article yet. Okay, the article. Here’s one:

Quinn herself described the abuse as “the proliferation of nude pictures of me, death threats, vandalization, doxxing of my trans friends for having the audacity to converse with me publicly, harassment of friends and family and my friends’ family in addition to TOTALLY UNRELATED PEOPLE, sending my home address around, rape threats, memes about me being a whore, pressures to kill myself, slurs of every variety, fucking debates over what my genitals smell like,” all pushed by her ex and his use of “4chan as his own personal army.”

And why should I believe proliferate, outed liar Zoe Quinn, who lied over and over and over again and CONTINUED LYING after being caught? Because sexism?

It doesn’t even matter how much of her ex’s accusations are true or not, because it’s nothing but pure misogyny to use online harassment troops to punish a woman because she didn’t meet your standards for a girlfriend.

It doesn’t even matter if I comment on this line or not, because it’s nothing but phenomenal stupidity to claim that getting revenge on an ex is somehow misogyny and not just, you know, being pissed at your ex. Also, look at us taking the words of a known liar at face value as the only evidence to slam her ex-boyfriend! No vendetta there!

Skipping ahead:

The fact that the review she was accused of “buying” doesn’t exist hasn’t slowed the self-righteous haranguing, of course. That’s because the “ethics” question is a paper-thin excuse for what’s really going on, which is that the video game world is thick with misogynists who are aching to swarm on any random woman held up for them to hate, no matter what the pretext.

Yes, friends, let’s listen to Amanda here. She has read the minds of all of us misogynists, and has made two important conclusions. One is that because the reviewer Zoe fucked didn’t actually write the review of her game (though he did favorably mention it) it means that Zoe committed no wrongs that have to do directly…like, say, fucking the man who would then hire her as a developer! But hey, no bigs, her ex-boyfriend is totally sure that he hired her because she deserved it!

The other conclusion the amazing brain of Amanda Marcotte managed to glean is that evilly-evil men don’t need a pretext to hate women, they just hate. How does she know this? Well, she thinks their pretext is bad! Therefore, profit!

So Marcotte goes through a few other feminists who claimed men were being horrible to them. There’s Sarkeesian, who managed to leverage men on online forums (and one idiot defacing her wikipedia page…I know Vox Day has had to edit his a few times) insulting her into 120,000 dollars.  The supposed horrible misogynist internet managed to raise twice what she asked for because she cried foul.

There’s Janelle Assellin, who first claims that when men disagree with her it’s because of misogyny. She gets rape threats sent to her through some online questionnaire, which is the apparent equivalent of barraging her with abuse and rape threats. Given that they all occurred in a very specific place at a very specific time, it seems more likely that a group of people got together and decided to mess with her but hey, barraged by abuse and rape threats sounds better. A feminist artist named Dina Karam had people…learn stuff about her and ask questions? Say negative things that also had to do with her sex (GASP!!!)?

There’s some blather about video game characters raping each other, which is nothing new and anybody who has ever heard of teabagging knows a little bit about it (you really don’t think the people behind teabagging wouldn’t find it funny to actually “Go all the way” with a female character?).

So blah blah blah last sentence:

And that is why, no matter how much they might convince themselves that they’re in the right, their bile is only convincing outsiders that they are nothing more than a bunch of haters who are scared of sharing their toys with the girls

…And then, we learn about the corrupt journalists in bed with each other deciding specifically what stories to release on what days about which games and which people. Totally because they’re just haterzzzz.

Ahhhhhh, Amanda Marcotte. Well, she gave me something to do for awhile, anyway.

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9 Responses to LOL, Zoe Quinn

  1. The Deuce says:

    memes about me being a whore

    Is that what she calls screenshots of her IRC logs?

  2. Jakeithus says:

    Judging from the date of that article, it must have been one of the very first to accuse “gamers” of rampant misogyny. Given that almost 2 months have passed since then, and the messaging from that side of the debate is basically completely unchanged, yet they haven’t been able to reframe the issue or cause the other side to back down, I’m not sure the strategy will ever be effective.

    Hardcore gamers have spent most of their existence looked down upon in the eyes of the general public, shaming them into changing their tune now isn’t going to be effective. If gamers were primarily looking for acceptance in the mainstream in the first place, they wouldn’t be gamers to begin with. Those calling gamers a bunch of misogynerds fundamentally just don’t understand them; the vast majority could care less about the sex of the people playing or making games, what they take issue with is when someone, like Anita Sarkeesian, comes along and tries to make playing games about something other than the games themselves (like gender roles). The fact that the people trying to do those are proven liars, like Anita Sarkeesian, only makes it worse.

    The only people scared by this whole thing are the Social Justice Warriors and feminists. Hardcore gaming, because it naturally appeals primarily to males, is a male-focused space. The fact that a male-focused space might exist that is not somehow overseen by women and feminists is a frightening prospect to them, given the totalitarian tendencies of progressives. I see hardcore gaming as a more difficult holdout for feminism to conquer.

    • The Deuce says:

      Plus, we gamers have that Aspie perseverance that lets us sit in front of a screen for five hours, getting killed repeatedly but coming back over and over again until we win.

    • Not that I’m surprised, but how is Sarkeesian a proven liar?

      Another note: Where is the proof that any of the harassers have anything to do with gamergate, anyway, which is only a twitter hashtag based around a broad movement?

      • Oooooooo! I can totally field this!

        Give me a few minutes to dig up but there’s been lots of stuff lately about how Anita’s threats were showing signs of fakery as well as others… hang on I had them stored in my happy place here…

    • Yakub says:

      I don’t think there are any proven lies, just strong suspicions. It is lying in a sense to critique a series of games and give the impression that you have played them all the way through when really you probably just skimmed a bunch of walkthroughs. The Bayonetta video she had pulled probably fits in this category.

      I think you made some great points, but I believe they figured out that gamers didn’t care about being called nerds and losers, so after the bomb threat some people are calling them “terrorists,” which is about the worst thing you can call someone in the USA beside “pedophile.”

  3. Jakeithus says:

    When Sarkeesian was out trying to convince people to donate to her Kickstarter for her Feminist Frequency videos, she put out a video talking about how she loves video games and finds them so interesting, and states directly “I’m a fan”. About a year ago, someone posted a video of her giving a more private lecture where she says, “I’m not a fan of video games”, and about how much she needed to learn in order to make her videos.

    That’s the most clear cut example, but there are a ton of other examples out there of the way she has often misrepresented the games she criticizes in her videos.

    She isn’t some gamer trying to improve the hobby she loves, she an activist deliberately misrepresenting herself in order to further her agenda.

    • Yep, then there was the stealing of let’s play video footage (without credit), and fan art of a video game (without credit). The “out of context” incident was her complaining about things the video game “Hitman” ALLOWS a player to do to hookers, even though in the game you are encouraged NOT to do to them (and are punished if you do those things).

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