Fun with Backlash

So, when this blog post of mine got linked to by “The Spectator”, I wrote this in the comments section to clarify my views:

I am not against slut-shaming in principle, and that post was not necessarily ADVOCATING cad-shaming – more like exploring the idea to see if it would be effective.

If you read onward through my posts, and in the comments section, you’ll notice I come to the conclusion that the best solution is actually just to ignore the cads completely. If we stop acting like they’re relevant or cool (which, by the way, they’re not) we don’t give them social status or power. Robbed of this, they’re sexual attractiveness at least drops and hopefully more good men are considered seriously by women as a result.

Well, it was only a matter of time. Here is the backlash by (going by the other comments as well) ultra-angry-feminist poster Liz:

You’re not against ritually humiliating one half of a species that depends on sexual reproduction for being sexual?

Or just too sexual?

According to the other half. Which boils down to having s*x with somebody other than them.

Ignoring cads is as likely to work as ignoring other kinds of sociopaths, they take it as a green light. How about this for an alternative: we stop ignoring or excusing or expecting men’s appalling behaviour towards women and start dealing with it properly?

Well, I responded with this. If any of you can think of improvements, I’d appreciate it. I wrote it off the cuff and I think some of my arguments are weaker than they could be:

You’re not against ritually humiliating one half of a species that depends on sexual reproduction for being sexual?

Who said anything about ritual? And in any case, no, shame can be a healthy emotion. When women are too sexually active it lowers their potential value as marriage material. Men would prefer not to marry women who have had sex with too many people. So if women are looking to marry good men, they should stop being sluts, yes.

Ignoring cads is as likely to work as ignoring other kinds of sociopaths, they take it as a green light.

Then it’s a good thing it’s not done as a benefit for the cads. Did you read what I wrote?

Thoughts?

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12 Responses to Fun with Backlash

  1. Crude says:

    Oddly, the only thing I have to say is to quote this:

    I am not against slut-shaming in principle, and that post was not necessarily ADVOCATING cad-shaming – more like exploring the idea to see if it would be effective.

    …And compliment you for it. Great attitude. Too many people rehearse repeating old lines. What we need – Catholics and conservative both – are people thinking of new ways and approaches to handle problems, culturally and intellectually.

    • Compliment appreciated. People think I’m dogmatic, but I’m actually pretty open to new ideas and methods…as long as they’re moral. Hence, my recent suspicions about the wisdom of democracy, as an example.

  2. Ilíon says:

    You’re not against ritually humiliating one half of a species that depends on sexual reproduction for being sexual?

    *Reproduction* is the very last thing that “gamers” and cads … and sluts … want.

  3. The Deuce says:

    My main thought is that she’s a blatantly incoherent hypocrite. She insinuates that it’s intrinsically wrong to express disapproval for the behavior of any member of “one half of a sexual species” on the grounds that they are engaged in sexual behaviors that members of the other sex dislike or are uncomfortable with. But men are half of a sexual species too, so by that logic, she’s got no grounds for condemning cads as sociopaths or disapproving of their sexual behavior. So long as they don’t rape anyone, what legitimate complaint can she have? That they’re being “too sexual,” here defined as sleeping with other women or not returning calls or whatever other strategy they use that bugs her personally?

    • Well, her position is that publishing a sex video is “almost rape”.

      • Crude says:

        On what grounds? That it makes a woman feel uncomfortable, and also rape is a bad thing?

        To hell with it. Her position is “almost rape”. If we’re going to make comparisons like that with little basis, I’d like to play too.

      • Oh, it “violates” the woman or something.

        Look, I’m not saying she was very bright.

      • For the record, I did decide to respond to her ludicrous “it’s almost rape” line:

        So let me get this straight: Posting an embarrassing video is the equivalent, or near equivalent, of grabbing a woman, forcing her underpants off, then holding her down while she struggles so I can ram my penis up her vagina until I climax.

        Publishing a video of her and me having consensual sex is just as traumatic, or “very close”.

        When people watch this video it is as if they are all holding down this woman and ramming their penis physically into her vagina against her will. The experience is almost equally traumatic.

        Saying “it’s extremely similar” doesn’t make it that way, Liz, nor does women claiming it to be extremely similar. They’re so not even close, it’s unbelievably offensive that you would dare to compare actual rape victims to women who got caught in an embarrassing video.

    • Res says:

      Yeah, other than the typical ‘sex is inherently unobjectionable’ thing, she’s really one of the more vulnerable of the type. You don’t begin with that and then immediately talk about how cads should be condemned, you’re supposed to be at least trying to act like a male.

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