No, THIS is What Victimization Looks Like:

Let’s even forget the rest of this appallingly bad article, titled “Christians, You’re not the Victims”. Predictably it is written by some supporter of the LGBT agenda upset that the entirety of the population isn’t just about ready to fall into lockstep with their goals and kowtow to their demands.

Let’s just focus on this section of the article, apparently meant to be the focal point of the piece:

Here’s what victimization looks like: every day, especially in some places, LGBT people face the real possibility of violence because of their orientation or gender identity. Young people jump off bridges or hang themselves on playground swing sets because of the bullying and discrimination they face. In 29 states, one can be fired from one’s job simply for being gay, with no recourse to the courts. In most places, we cannot legally marry the one we love. Some of us have been kicked out of the house when we come out to our parents, and many young LGBT people find themselves homeless and on the streets because of the attitudes of their religious parents toward their LGBT children. And did I mention the everyday threat of violence?

See, THIS makes me angry. This whole line of thinking makes me think of this monologue from Anton Ego in “Ratatouille”. This is called “lacking perspective”.

You really want to play the “No, we’re the REAL victim!” game? Well, okay. Here is what victimization looks like: Every day, Christians are beheaded, publicly, in front of their children, for the crime of being in a Muslim country. In North Korea Christians are being executed for the sin of attempting to help illegally imprisoned missionaries. Christians are being rounded up like cattle and killed in Egypt. Fox Sports Analyst Craig James was fired for daring to say, when not on the job, that he does not support gay marriage, partially for religious reasons. A prominent anti-bullying speaker, founder of an anti-bullying charity that spans nationwide, said in a speech he gave to high school students that (paraphrased) “…we can ignore all the (expletive deleted) in the Bible.”, and called the “Bible guys” “pansy-assed”. The National Scholastic Press Association’s response to the complaints started with this: “We appreciate the level of thoughtfulness and deliberation regarding Dan Savage’s keynote address…”

Now imagine that speech occurred, but instead of “Bible guys” it said “cock lovers”. Still think that the response of the NSPA is appropriate?

The point is that puffing out your chest and playing the “No I’m the bigger victim!” game adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.* Is what’s happening in the country, right now, to Christians in schools, in jobs, and in public life (there were classes I was afraid to speak in my second semester of college) right or wrong? Is it because of a movement by gays or lesbians or isn’t it? And how important are issues related to what constitutes religious freedom and what is or is not considered a marriage? Saying that “you’re being discriminated against” because you are forced to go against your beliefs on one of these things is perfectly valid. In fact, discussing whether or not this should count as discrimination in the legal sense is what the court cases are all going to be about. You don’t get to dismiss what people say by claiming to be an even BIGGER victim.

This is another reason why I’m starting to loathe the victim mentality. I reject it utterly. Even if I am one day to truly be victimized by the government I do not intend to use that as an excuse to gain legal rights or try and give demands. Let’s look at what’s going on and respond to the issues actually being fought about, for a change, instead of arguing about who the world hates more.



* Yes, of course I know terrible atrocities are committed against gays in third world countries. You can stop hitting your screen now, thanks.

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9 Responses to No, THIS is What Victimization Looks Like:

  1. Crude says:

    Look man, I know that Christians are thrown in jail and beheaded in some countries, and I know that in pretty much every western country they’re openly mocked, laughed at, and humiliated on TV, but to be totally honest? No amount of beheadings, whippings or imprisonment can compete with the anguish of a gay man being told he can’t get a wedding cake made at exactly the store he wants it at.

    There’s suffering, and there is SUFFERING.

    • Crude says:

      I will say one thing, in seriousness.

      This is another reason why I’m starting to loathe the victim mentality. I reject it utterly. Even if I am one day to truly be victimized by the government I do not intend to use that as an excuse to gain legal rights or try and give demands.

      I used to think this way. But lately, I’ve come to wonder if it’s not a mistake. I loathe the victim mentality, but I entirely endorse cynical use of a victim presentation. It’s the only way to survive now.

      • Are you thinking of things like MLK organizing protests specifically to provoke policemen into beating and jailing black people?

      • Crude says:

        More like, I think our current culture is such that whoever tries to take the ‘I am not a victim’ route is just killing themselves.

        Think of any loud ‘victim group’ you can. Now ask yourself how they’re doing lately. Doesn’t it seem as if it’s only the ones who scream and present themselves as victims are actually getting what they want?

      • I think there’s an important difference between displaying a victim mentality and objectively pointing out when other groups are trying to be oppressors. Perhaps that’s where we need to draw the careful line.

  2. I’m surprised the article didn’t try pulling the “Christians in other countries are killed for their beliefs, so STFU” move. Maybe the author just had more self-awareness than most LGBTQ activists, and realised that such an argument could be easily turned against the gay victimhood mentality.

  3. ccmnxc says:

    The entire “I’m the bigger victim mentality” strikes me as some sort of reverse tu quoque. Most attempts to say “I’m a victim too,” will elicit a “So what?” At least, in the context in which they try to emulate the mentality you outlined.

  4. sunshinemary says:

    Yes, that article was completely absurd. The implicit message is that Christians, unlike homosexuals, deserve to be discriminated against and since they’re just getting what they deserve, what are they complaining about?

  5. John says:

    Just for “WTF is this guy’s problem”, Malcolm, this thread is for a few laughs (or not): (pay attention to poster JoeyNolfi).

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